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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations: Omer Benjakob (3 October 2019). "The Fake Nazi Death Camp: Wikipedia's Longest Hoax, Exposed". Haaretz. Retrieved 4 October 2019. "Wikipedia page on fake Warsaw concentration camp was 15-year hoax — report". The Times of Israel. 5 October 2019. Retrieved 5 October 2019. A Wikipedia article describing a World War II Nazi death camp in Warsaw may have been the online encyclopedia's most enduring hoax before it was rewritten in August. "La bufala più antica di Wikipedia è sul lager di Varsavia? Ecco come stanno davvero le cose" (in Italian). Corriere della Sera. 8 October 2019. Retrieved 16 September 2021. Daniel Blatman (18 October 2019). "Opinion // Israel, It's Time to Call Off the anti-Polish Hunt". Haaretz. Retrieved 31 October 2019. The story has existed on Wikipedia for 15 years, as Benjakob writes. Haaretz termed it the greatest hoax in the history of the online encyclopedia. But it bears remembering that in the course of the period in question, Poland had a number of governments. Yevgeniy Shestakov (9 January 2020). "Чего боится Польша? Для чего Варшава придумала "Полокост"" (in Russian). Rossiyskaya Gazeta. Retrieved 16 September 2021. Израильская газета "Гаарец" рассказала о том, как в Польше создают фейковую историю. Издание обратило внимание на статью в Википедии, где говорилось о действовавшем в Варшаве нацистском лагере смерти, который якобы был специально создан для уничтожения поляков. [...] Но, как установили историки, такого лагеря для поляков никогда не существовало. [...] Тем не менее в Варшаве продолжают использовать лживую статью в Википедии, чтобы сочинять собственный Холокост - "Полокост". И на этом основании требовать новых репараций от Германии. Piotr Konieczny (12 March 2020). "Mamy taką Wikipedię, na jaką zasłużyliśmy. Eksperci nie chcą tworzyć dobra publicznego" (in Polish). Gazeta Wyborcza. Retrieved 16 September 2021. Pavel Richter (25 November 2020). "Die erfundenen Gaskammern in der Wikipedia" (in German). Der Spiegel (news website). Retrieved 6 December 2020. Es ist das Verdienst der israelischen Zeitung »Haaretz« und des Journalisten Omer Benjakob, diesen Hoax in der Wikipedia 2019 aufgedeckt zu haben. Der Eintrag (»Warsaw concentration camp«) wurde entsprechend korrigiert. Piotr Głuchowski (30 May 2022). "Jak stać się ency? Czyli co ma zrobić Kowalski, by znaleźć się w Wikipedii?" (in Polish). Gazeta Wyborcza. Retrieved 1 June 2022. Stephen Harrison (5 April 2023). "Wikipedia's "Supreme Court" to Review Polish-Jewish History During WWII". Slate (magazine). Retrieved 6 April 2023. One striking example of misinformation that formerly appeared on Wikipedia was the fake Nazi death camp, which was first reported by Omer Benjakob for Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper. Shira Klein (14 June 2023). "The shocking truth about Wikipedia's Holocaust disinformation". The Forward. Retrieved 16 June 2023. In one glaring hoax discovered by an Israeli reporter, Wikipedia claimed for 15 years that the Germans annihilated 200,000 non-Jewish Poles in a giant gas chamber in the middle of Warsaw. Izabella Tabarovsky (25 July 2024). "Wikipedia's Jewish Problem". Tablet. Retrieved 25 July 2024. The story—a fiction—remained on the site for 15 years before the Israeli newspaper Haaretz revealed the problem in 2019. By then, the article had been translated into multiple languages, and its claims incorporated into multiple other Wikipedia articles. An estimated half a million people got exposed to the lie. Piotr Konieczny (5 June 2025). "Fake news, an internet troll, and a conspiracy theory about 'Wikipedia's Intentional Distortion of the History of the Holocaust'". Holocaust Studies: A Journal of Culture and History. Retrieved 5 January 2026.

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Change conspiracy theory to theory and add clarification that 200’000 is the largest estimate given for gas chamber deaths, as well as adding different sources for the historiography surrounding the camp, such as Norman Davies’ Rising ’44 discussion and so forth.

The tone of this part is uncharacteristically and unnecessarily hostile and apparently reflects an editing conflict in which a bellicose accusation is implicitly made against another side, attempting to make the other ‘side’ as unacceptable as possible.

People should be extra careful when they feel the need to do so, especially when they have the power to do so, to make sure they’re not taking advantage of it.

This doesn’t require one to even change the overall conclusion.

The point is, if one is making the claim that a claim isn’t made with proper basis, one should adhere to a higher standard. One should try to be charitable towards others and their attempts if one can. I believe that there is a measure of unbridled hostility towards others here, which is very dangerous when given power. It seems like its goal is to get a “win” and attempt to discredit others, which is a temptation people should avoid if possible.

The idea that it is a “conspiracy theory” is somewhat spurious, no “conspiracy” is stated which would be required for it.

The highest claim for dead at a subcamp was 200’000 total.

The post, given discourse around it seems ideologically hostile. I’ve seen people even call it a “hoax” (!) which is incredibly disrespectful.

London Review of Books is the only source given.

Norman Davies noted discourse around the damp in Rising ’44.

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The language is definitely bellicose or hostile, treating the person as an enemy not even someone wrong. That does not fit the bar for discourse that this demands. 2A02:A310:E23F:400:8C39:3F2B:51BC:9D42 (talk) 05:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am almost certain that this site is more than a square metre in size. Please consider amending the location to an appropriate level of precision (1 second is around 30 metres, so decimals are less than that) 2A0A:EF40:32E:1801:F92F:8C60:A4BF:F07 (talk) 06:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please add a short description to this article? Thanks. uᴉɐʇsǝɥʇuƎ uoʇsᴉoʅɓoʅɥԀ (Hit Me Up) 18:52, 15 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]