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Thank you! Made my day. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:53, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply] Also, thanks for taking the time to improve the article, correct formatting for the inter-wiki links, and clean-up my mistakes, etc. I look forward to seeing what others add over time too. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 18:09, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

-- RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:40, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For being generally tireless, diligent, and open minded in spite of all the curveballs Wikipedia throws at you.  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:01, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] (if you were wondering, barnstars used to be a thing amongst the community but no one seems to use them much anymore.) Thank you! Made my day. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:01, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply] PS: Yes, I was wondering what they were and from[1] whence they came. Now I know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Aoidh (talk) 00:02, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cl3phact0. Thank you for your work on ADI Design Museum. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, I had the following comments:

Hey y'all! I sure hope y'all are havin' a mighty fine day today. I just wanted to say a heartfelt thank you for takin' the time to contribute to Wikipedia by creatin' that there article. I'm happy to inform you that your article has adhered to Wikipedia's policies, so I've marked it as reviewed. Now y'all can rest easy and enjoy the rest of your day, along with your kinfolk! Y'all take care now, ya hear?

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 16:13, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you, Ingenuity. Much appreciated. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:46, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Giorgia Zanellato has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

not notable person

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. PakisOne (talk) 11:53, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PakisOne (for reference only: MrsSnoozyTurtle, Ipigott), Contested and removed WP:PROD (see rational in edit summaries). Expanding the article would be more constructive. Thank you, Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stifle (talk) 17:51, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stifle (talk) 08:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Olivetti Valentine at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:52, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want to congratulate you on the successful Olivetti Valentine DYK link -- I don't know which is more challenging: putting together a good Wikipedia article or getting an article successfully into DYK. I have a nagging disappointment that I did not think to time all of this so it could hit DYK on Valentine's day! Years ago I had nominated many articles successfully for DYK, but found the process somewhat brutal, with a tendency to take the rigorous dissection of the articles... personally. I tend to take an arms-length approach, now, to DYK -- though I can't wait to see the number of pageviews, lol. I appreciate your hopping onto the article after I started major edits, helping form it, and especially doing so in a way that was constructive and collaborative. The next time I expand an article, I may tag you, as you understand the process well and can make impacts in a professional and friendly way. It's hilarious that after all the work and effort put in to polishing that article, the first sentence carried a typo on the article name -- until it was released to DYK! It takes a village. Bravo and congrats. 842U (talk) 10:50, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to you for putting together a fascinating little gem of an article! It does an excellent job of highlighting this curious and iconic design, as well as framing its historical context and enduring significance – and yes, utterly hilarious that it took 15K+ pairs of eyes to spot that Valentine was misspelt in the first line of the lead. Apart from the satisfaction of seeing a good article so widely read, this is the best rationale I can think of for enduring any inherent stress of the DYK process itself. Also, tag at will. I'm happy to look at anything you'd like. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:55, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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		For all the work done within the controversial fettuccine Alfredo page.

JacktheBrown (talk) 17:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cl3phact0. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Azusa Murakami".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cl3phact0. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Cristián Mohaded".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cl3phact0. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Hassan Rahim".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Cl3phact0, I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to suggest the creation of an article for AVL List GmbH, an internationally significant company that currently lacks representation on the English Wikipedia. Here is a summary of the reasons why I believe this topic meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria:

Global Importance in Automotive and Engineering Sectors: AVL List GmbH is one of the largest independent companies in the world specializing in the development, simulation, and testing of powertrain systems. This includes work on internal combustion engines, electric and hybrid powertrains, and related technologies. The company plays a critical role in the automotive industry's transition to sustainable mobility.

Proven Notability: AVL List has been extensively covered in reliable, secondary sources. These include industry reports, news articles in respected publications (e.g., Automotive News, Forbes), and research collaborations documented in academic journals. Additionally, AVL’s innovations in simulation technologies and its contributions to engineering fields have been widely recognized.

Existing Coverage in Other Languages: AVL List already has a detailed and well-sourced article on the German Wikipedia ([link to the article]). Expanding its presence to the English Wikipedia would benefit a global audience and align with the goal of making knowledge accessible across linguistic boundaries.

Alignment with Wikipedia’s Purpose: The absence of an English article for a company of AVL’s stature creates a notable gap in Wikipedia’s coverage of the automotive and engineering domains. Including this article would provide balanced and well-referenced information for researchers, engineers, students, and other interested parties.

I am happy to provide a draft article or additional resources to support the creation of this page. My draft would adhere strictly to Wikipedia’s neutrality and verifiability guidelines, ensuring that the article is factual, balanced, and well-sourced.

Thank you for considering this suggestion. Please let me know if you would be open to reviewing a draft or if you need further details regarding the topic.

Best regards, Norbert Adam NorbertAdam1980 (talk) 10:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you that AVL List [de] (wikidata:Q300157) should be included in English Wikipedia. Thank you for highlighting this omission. I've made a few minor edits to the related articles for Hans List and Helmut List, and will also create a blank Draft in order to get this started. I see no reason why you can't then go ahead and write the bulk of the draft text (as you suggest), as long as you follow the conflict of interest rules and other relevant guidelines concerning sources for translations, etc. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] PS: There was a previous abandoned draft for AVL List. I have requested its undeletion here. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:55, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] PPS: Also see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AVL (engineering company). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] Hello CI3phact0, I just made up the new draft here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVL_List) hoping it is meeting all requirements. I really did emphasis on finding as many sources as possible. Please just tell me if there is anything missing or to extensive or not aligning Wikipedia´s rules. Thanks a lot, NorbertAdam1980 NorbertAdam1980 (talk) 14:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] You may have better results if you begin with the existing Draft:AVL List, and then, when ready, use the "Submit the draft for review!" button (please ping me too). Citing reliable sources will be necessary for the article to be accepted. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How on earth is adding a referenced quotation by a person "an opinion"? How on earth is it not controversial for one of the leading AI executives to say that AI will replace jobs that maybe shouldn't have existed in the first place? These AI executives decided to design their LLMs in such a way that they stand the highest chance of replacing people's jobs. They've stolen all of humanity's Internet contributions without anyone's consent in order to enrich themselves by making as many people as possible unemployed and poor. If you don't think that's controversial, buy a new dictionary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.111.156 (talk)

Hey,

hope you're well. I see you edit a lot of people's Wiki Pages.I'd like to know if you can set up one for our brands creative director, if you offer such Services? if you do please let me know how we can discuss further.

Thank you, Samantha. Geowebstore (talk) 04:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The best I can do is point you in the right direction. You might want to start by reading WP:PROMOTION, WP:COI, WP:SCAM, and WP:REQUEST. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] PS: Also see WP:USERNAME (esp. WP:ISU). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:14, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply] thanks for your reply. I'm going to have a read of the links you've sent over. Geowebstore (talk) 17:43, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cl3phact0, nice to meet you. I'm hoping that as a participant in WP:BIOGRAPHY you'd be willing to assist at Bill Ackman. My COI keeps me from editing directly so I have posted my proposed changes here: Talk:Bill Ackman#Philanthropy section. As you'll see, the Philanthropy section of the article gives too much attention and weight to an arbitrary selection of organizations, forming an inaccurate picture of Ackman's giving history and misleadingly suggesting that these groups benefited disproportionately from Ackman's philanthropy. Instead of dedicating a paragraph to every organization that Ackman gave to and is documented in RS - which would make the Philanthropy section inordinately long - I am proposing dedicated sentences or paragraphs only for philanthropy that was particularly significant in the larger context of Ackman's years of involvement in philanthropy. The consolidated list I proposed includes some of the more prominent grantees and removes the less noteworthy details, e.g. that Ackman was honored at a gala once for an organization he supported.

An initial discussion with a different editor had gotten underway, but he went on a wikibreak before we reached conclusions or implemented changes. I look forward to hearing from you - thank you for your time and help. FMatPSCM (talk) 14:49, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the question, Clephacto. It's more of a matter "red vs. light blue", the color that comes up. Either way, they "help flag missing articles that we might want to create", with the caveat "though we probably never will"). The difference is that those ugly red links are usually a stop sign, a deterrent to looking any further, because they're more commonly used to go to a message that says "page does not exist", which was okay when Wikipedia didn't offer to translate the page. At worst, the more modern way links to a page in another language, and an offer to translate it into English. For the reader, red-links are an interruption to smooth reading, designed to be skipped over rather than to invite volunteers to create a page. I would wager that more articles will be created by taking someone directly to another Wikipedia than by suggesting that there's nothing at all.Mandsford 14:33, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Please see response on your Talk page (with original question). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 18:25, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply] Thank you, Clephacto. On the first point, it's clear that when H:FOREIGNLINK was written, the ill interlanguage linke was the only way to link a foreign article. One of the problems with relying on the minor guidelines as gospel is that they tend not to get updated as new developments are made. Clicking upon Adolphe d'Assier takes you straight to the article. Clicking on the text of Adolphe d'Assier [fr] takes you to "This page does not exist". If the average reader happens to notice the tiny box that says "[fr]", then, and only then, does it lead to an article written in French. It's the same destination, but with a less obvious way than clicking on Adolphe d'Assier. The "ill" method made sense in 2001 when it was all that there was, but it's flawed and superseded that something better that was created for Wikipedia. On the second point, I could go into more detail about machine translation, but that has improved in the last 24 years as well. Again, the guideline hasn't changed with the times.Mandsford 20:22, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, do you think this is a good external link? [2]. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:05, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It looks fine. Useful information, fairly neutral, reliable source (La Cucina Italiana is a Condé Nast magazine), although perhaps I don't understand exactly what you are asking. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:35, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply] I wanted to ask you this because you're a very good user (your work on the fettuccine Alfredo page hasn't gone unnoticed). JacktheBrown (talk) 18:48, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Sabine Marcelis, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Vanity Fair.

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Fixed -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 20:01, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Eunice suggestion - I'm trying to assemble the 100 women now. Victuallers (talk) 15:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain why you're doing that? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doing what? Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:06, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply] Making the edit shown in the diff provided? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply] You've lost me (which is becoming thematic). Is there a rule that prohibits, or a reason not to refresh the date on a template that one previously placed (especially when that template has been updated itself)? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 14:22, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply] I'm not aware of a concrete rule against it, but it seems counterproductive. Why would you want to do that? If the template changes it will automatically update on the page without such an action. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:44, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply] I guess the logic was that on the off-chance that someone who is (a) in a position to add photographs of the subject and/or her work and (b) doesn't know how to do so (c) might be watching the article for changes – thus leading to (d) improvement of this encyclopaedia (per WP:1Q). Long shot, no doubt, yet relatively low-cost, so probably worth taking a punt. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 18:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there. Just wanted to comment on one thing, on clamshell design you changed the top image to one showing the Moto MicroTAC as an example of clamshell. But I'm not sure that would be the best example? Because clamshell comes from clam and the design of a typical 'flip phone' conforms more to that opening mechanism than the MicroTac's (which is backwards you could say). I'm not very sure clamshell has often been applied either to refer to the MicroTac style. Knoxmann (talk) 02:17, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a form factor, "clamshell" refers to many design typologies, not just phones, of course (e.g., packaging, computers and other electronic devices, etc.). With regard to "flip phones", the three most significant milestones historically seem to be the StarTrek Communcator (1960s), the Grillo telephone (late 1960s through the 1970s), and the MicroTac (mid-1980s). Obviously there are hundreds (if not thousands) of phone designs that use this form factor. Most are forgettable and historically unremarkable. If you prefer a more symmetrical example to the MircoTac, then the StarTac would seem to be a good choice. I have no problem with this, although I would like to preserve the MicroTac photos in the Gallery section as an "early example". The humble clam may actually be the least ambiguous choice for our top image in this case (see most recent edit). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Perhaps this discussion should be moved to the Talk page of the article itself. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. Because you've made many good edits to some clamshell articles I recently improved, I thought you might be interested in this:

Some content on the article List of best-selling mobile phones has always been a bit fishy. Well I then decided to look further into it and discovered at least 2 major inaccuracies of incorrect/fake sales figures that originated here on Wikipedia, and went completely unchecked for years, and has since made its way to other media outlets!

This was quite shocking to me. I have written it all just now on Talk:List of best-selling mobile phones if you take a look. This is a serious issue but I have no clue how to escalate it or let other people know. I wonder if you have any input or if you are able to let admins or other important Wikipedia users know. Knoxmann (talk) 14:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is not true what you wrote about picture of Karim Rashid. You erased picture but Licence, permission is sent yestarday Photographer sent it regularly on address [email protected] @Cl3phact0 @Justlettersandnumbers MarijanaPlay (talk) 08:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello MarijanaPlay, we're actually trying to help you (a lot of my work in the project is with WP:BLPs of creatives, which is how we crossed paths). A persistent and aggressively WP:OWN attitude is not going to endear you (or your collaborators) to the Wikipedia community. Please read the policy guidelines regarding WP:COI and WP:NOT, and also see WP:PICYOU, all three of which will help you avoid causing disruption. Eventually your account will be blocked and the Rashid article will end up with a } tag at the top if you chose to ignore Wikipedia policy – which we are trying to help you avoid. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:14, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply] Also, please keep this discussion on the Talk page of the Karim Rashid article itself and don't accuse me (or other editors) of things that I did not say or do. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply] Okay, I understand, I am sorry. I will read policy and guidelines. MarijanaPlay (talk) 09:20, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I certainly do not intend to continue. No thanks! I've had quite enough. In fact, the project in question has essentially become an unwelcoming, hostile waste of time as the pattern of aggressive reverts has amplified (alas, I thought I could contribute something valuable, and put in quite a lot of work with that objective). Having never had to contend with quite this level of rude and aggressive behaviour here, I'm not sure exactly how this works. Will the other editor involved (who already made 3 reverts of the work in question) be similarly reprimanded? I had considered reporting the behaviour, but really didn't think it worth the stress. Are there other steps that should (or shouldn't) be taken in this situation? Thank you, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:53, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply] @Fortuna imperatrix mundi: I don't actually understand why this warning message was placed here and not on the talk page of the editor who instigated the "edit war" (without even making an sincere effort to explain their objection to my work or reach a consensus in the first place), and who actually made three reverts in a row. I'm a bit confused about this whole thing and I find it quite unsettling. Is this a mistake or am I misunderstanding something? Thanks, Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:16, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply] @Fortuna imperatrix mundi:I do remain mildly perplexed by how this frightful and unsightly warning tag appeared here in the first place. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:59, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Hope you having a good day! I created a article for me country and i think there is something wrong with it. 1. The image is super large! When i view on my phone i can't actually see the text! I mean i can see but i need to scroll. But on other articles the images are smaller and they view so nice. 2. Can I remove the orphan warning? I really don't know where i can link this article. I'm sorry for putting this message here if it's not your concern. Ghazale Si7 (talk) 03:15, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Try the main Wikipedia:Help desk or the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Good luck! Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:03, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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...we are at odds with each other, because I found this absolutely hilarious.[3] Viriditas (talk) 12:01, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doubly confused now: firstly, I am at odds with nobody, not you, not anyone (live and let live, de gustibus aut bene, aut nihil); but more importantly, what did you find hilarious – the reference from Vogue; the other one; that either of these were used in the first place; that one line of text (mostly a direct quote) about a pop-star's old clothes got F-I-V-E whole refs??? Do tell, I'm stumped ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cl3phact0 (talk) 13:03, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] That edit gave me a spit-take. If I have to explain the joke, then it's no longer funny. :) Viriditas (talk) 20:29, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] Gotcha. I'll laugh with you then (trumps being laughed at hands down). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:15, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] PS: Tossed a few bobs worth of mirth in the spirt of tea-spittin', peace luvin' magnanimity (Y). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:59, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] ..Personally, I like to give readers access to more refence [sic] material, whereas our friend Viriditas seems to think that we should not do this as it is disrespectful... You are tilting at windmills, friend. I think our disagreement might stem from this kind of misinterpretation and misreading of what I wrote. I realize that things can easily be misunderstood. Case in point, on Reddit, people will often say one thing, such as "I love some kinds of cake", only to have 100 reply "Why do you hate other cakes so much?" I did not say here, there, or in any other discussion on Wikipedia for that matter, that I don't want people to provide more or less references. I asked if the sources were relevant, and if they weren't, to consider removing them. I also said, if they were important to you (as you then go on to argue later), then to bundle them instead. To wit, here is an example of an overcited sentence that leads to readability issues.[1][2][3][4][5] One solution to the problem is to use only one citation.[6] Another solution is to bundle your citations instead.[7] I hope that solves the misunderstanding going forward. Enjoy your weekend. Viriditas (talk) 09:28, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] Indeed (though I'd have said flaming hoop jumping, hot coal walking, or hemlock tea sipping more than windmill jousting – but once again, we're back at matters of taste). Guess I'll get busy with those WP:GA edits then. 10% earns that elusive 11th "Y", right? Also, for what it's worth, I'm a fan of WP:SRF and related techniques, just haven't mastered all the nuances yet. My go-to reference is Irredentism (as well as Italian irredentism), and I've even mustered the courage to contribute to both using this footnote style. There's a bright future in this (for both of us), I'm sure. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:05, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] I appreciate your lighthearted reply, and I apologize for any unnecessary stress I may have caused you. Viriditas (talk) 00:43, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] No need for apologies. The article is arguably better now than it was when "the wild rumpus [began]" (see latest version). "As the tree bends, so shall it grow." It's all a bit more of a mental workout than I bargained for when putting the "nom" up at DYK. "The nail that sticks up get hammered down." The only outcome that might merit regrets or reproach would be the whole thing swirling down the drain on account of a gurgling death-spiral of logical }, soapboxing (e.g., essays posing as policy; opinions cast as rules and the like) propping-up non-policy based arguments (some of which, in my view, are just plain non compos mentis "to boot" – again, we circle back to opinions) and leading to slap-dash, abrupt DYK-interruptus. I did my bit. Close the circle now? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:08, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] When a second review is needed, it is best to let someone else close it. I did not like your response to Launchballer and I think you owe them an apology. While it is true that they make mistakes just like anyone else (you, me, whomever), they do a lot of hard work here and I think you have misjudged them. Viriditas (talk) 03:05, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] I'll now acknowledge your apology (as it is deeply, deeply merited in light of this... travesty). Of course, if by the above you mean to say that the apology has now been rescinded, then I suppose we are "at odds" (in your words) after all. I also believe that an apology is owed by (not to) Launchballer (and Rjjiii as well, for that matter) to everyone who "put in much time and effort" and good faith trying to improve both this misbegotten and ill-fated nom – and of course, this encyclopaedia itself "to boot" (per WP:1Q and WP:IAR). In my view, this is all a ridiculous, petty, and humourless display of WP:BUREAUCRACY that mostly succeeded in dis-improving Wikipedia by fiat or cabal "to boot" (although I suppose incrementally improving an article that presented no "real" impediment for DYK inclusion is some small consolation). You have also chased a potential asset to the project away from DYK – which is, indeed, "too bad". Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:20, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] Doubling down isn't the right approach. Let me know when you come to your senses and apologize to Launchballer. Viriditas (talk) 19:53, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] You chose to come to this page and declare that you were "at odds" with me. Now you're hounding me (admonishing me, warning me – whatever it is, it's not pleasant) to apologise for... what exactly? This: Undid revision 1317811910 by Launchballer (talk) rvt good faith edit: the quotes are all attributed; working through the suggestions and making revisions accordingly; please give this a few more days (please note P-L-E-A-S-E, etc.), in which I simply (and politely) tried to point out that Launchballer made a mistake – do I really also need to quote what's written in DYK "policy" and cited erroneously? (WP:DYKTIMEOUT says if a nomination timed out while it was waiting for a review or a re-review, consider reviewing the nomination rather than rejecting it), they are highly experienced at DYK, way more so than I am; or this, in which I simply stated the truth (perhaps more bluntly than in the previous example, but certianly not with any malice or ill-intent) – which is that a rash judgment was made (which, as you point out, was a "mistake"), and it made me feel very unwelcome an disrespected. We were right in the middle of fixing-up the last requests that you made re: "over quotation". Cunard mercifully bullet pointed the quotes that most needed attention. I spent hours re-drafting the article over the weekend so we could get it over the line. They (including Rjjiii) have now made the same mistake twice (vis-à-vis WP:DYKTIMEOUT application) to "reject" the nom, ignoring the project’s own guidelines and stated purpose. There's obviously a misunderstanding, but it surely did NOT merit depriving our readers of a perfectly fine DYK ("Great job on the article and nice hooks to boot", in your fist first words on the matter), or sanctioning me by rejecting the nom. Ouch. So, unless you're going to help try to undo this and this (i.e., the second and third WP:DYKTIMEOUT mistakes), there's really not much more about this sad affair for us to discuss. Since it seems that that is not your intention or why you came back here, you are out of line – in which case, please find somebody else to pick on. It's shameful the way that this DYK unfolded, and in my view, you are largely to blame. This whole thing is a sad travesty, an abuse of good faith, and it erodes my trust in the project (and it's a huge waste of time to boot). You should be ashamed. Please stop harassing me and please stop wasting everyone's time. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:46, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] Hello Cl3phact0. My reading of that nom is not that it was "waiting for a review" but that it had been reviewed two or three times. My intention with the long close was to clear up confusion that I saw in the discussion there. If that came off as "petty" or bureaucratic then it did not work, and you have my apologies if it only made a bad situation worse. Rjjiii (talk) 09:54, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] Thanks for taking the time to reply and to look at this (what's a little more time at this point, after all)! The nom was very much in the middle of being reviewed and amended, in the works, etc. (i.e., "waiting for a review"), so when Launchballer marked it "rejected", it seemed like an obvious error... so I tried to fix it. I thought this was clear in the edit summary (see above). Now, maybe rvts are not a thing here at DYK? I'm still pretty new in this that corner of the wiki-playground, so, new kid in town, in spite of having done a few (well, 7 actually, or 8 if this one goes through). Anyhow, it was nearly done, so it really felt like getting smacked (for... nothing more than trying to do a good job). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:05, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply] I never said I was at odds with you. I said "we are at odds with each other", and we still are. You are reading a lot into that small phrase. All it means is that we disagree. Take a moment to step back and approach this after taking a break for a few days. You might find that you have a fresh perspective. I notice that in a lot of your replies here and elsewhere, you constantly focus on you, and how this or that makes you feel, how you feel maligned, how you feel upset, how you feel. But I don't see you taking into account how others feel or what they say or believe. Believe me when I tell you this, but I had no idea you were King (or Queen) of Wikipedia. Now that you have corrected me on this point, I wish to alert your majesty that I am about to make my departure. But before I do, I wish to inform your majesty that this kind of editing is exactly what you were taken to task for at the DYK. To see that you have learned nothing and have reverted back to excessive quoting and citations does not bode well for future DYKs. This is exactly the kind of WP:IDHT behavior that is going to get you in trouble. Viriditas (talk) 01:31, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This now seems to me like a clear pattern of disingenuous, spiteful, and vindictive editing (in a DYK nom that started with "Great job on the article and nice hooks to boot", followed by a gaslighting psyco-drama rollercoaster ride), coupled with Talk page hounding, Draft article stalking, name calling, pontificating directives and ultimata (and implicit threats like "does not bode well" and "going to get you in trouble" to boot). What is wrong? Are you okay? Do what you need to do to resolve any problems you may have – just PLEASE don't take it out other people (here or anywhere else). It comes off as arrogant, harassing, taunting, and frankly bully-like behaviour (though I sincerely hope that is not be your intent), and PLEASE stop harassing me. I did nothing to you and I can't do anything for you. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:45, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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[4], apparently because a Wikipedian asked him. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:47, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's one way. Asking people directly seems to have a better than zero success rate. Along these lines, this and this (and to a lesser degree, this) might also be of interest. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:06, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, you pinged me about your "Tangential discussion re: DYK backlog" section. I suggest that you start a new thread at the bottom of the page about "DYK backlog", as that is likely to get more attention. You could bullet "Observations" and "Questions" to highlight the latter. I personally don't think there are any easy answers as the project operates by consensus. My view of the recent discussion is that everybody opposed changes which make it harder for them to do what they want to do, so if you add up the opinions you get opposition to any change at all. TSventon (talk) 14:09, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, was that bad form (pinging you in there)? If so, my apologies! I thought that as you gave me the link, it was the right thing to do. To your point, I suppose that it's only human nature to oppose changes which make it harder for one do what one wants to do, right? No real surprise in that. The other observation I'd make is that the whole review/QPQ process seems a bit random (as the higher-ups seem to pretty much do it all over again to their taste anyhow – often effectively reversing and rendering pointless the QPQ reviews that are done by the hoi polloi nominators). It's a bit like re-writing one's assistant's correspondence because they didn't do it the way you would. Not super-efficient to hire someone to free-up bandwidth and then turn around and do their job anyhow. As for the rest, let's give it a little more time. Notwithstanding your point about backlogs (to which I certainly didn't mean to unwittingly add), I'm rather disappointed and a tad disillusioned at the moment. That Prince Consort Gallery article deserves a fresh, unbiased review (especially if you factor this nonsense into the equation). It was B-Rated and >90% Y marks when it got unceremoniously yeeted. Not cool. Thanks again for the link. Fascinating creatures, we humans. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:39, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] Hi, I mentioned the ping to explain that I looked at your post when you pinged me, not as a complaint. And of course it is fine if you disagree with my advice. I don't think that regular prep builders and admins are redoing the whole review, but I am not a regular prep builder or an admin. RoySmith has said he spends about 30 minutes on reviewing a prep set unless there are problems, and I would hope that the original reviewers spent longer than 3 minutes per article. Of course I have my own bias, which you have probably noticed. (I sympathise with the prep builders and admins as they are helping other editors get their content onto the main page.) The selfish aspect is that I want DYK to be around when I next have an article I want to share with the world. TSventon (talk) 16:14, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] 3 minutes per article!!! I takes me hours to do a review. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:21, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] This (and this) is currently happening with an reviewed/approved DYK at the prep level. Maybe I missed something, but it seems like a lot of going in circles (and way above and beyond the call of duty) if you look at the letter of what's actually written in the DYK guidelines. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:42, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] I want DYK to be around – as do I. It's a fantastic part of the overall project. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:52, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] I didn’t see this thread before I commented earlier, but I definitely support TSventon’s suggestion to move the conversation to a fresh section at the bottom of WT:DYK. A dedicated thread will make it obvious that this is a broader discussion rather than a comment on any single nomination, which may encourage more people to weigh in without feeling like they’re stepping into an existing dispute. Zzz plant (talk) 17:03, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] I'm fine with separating the discussion(s) if you both feel that this is more likely to attract constructive dialogue (omertà comes to mind, but that's just my dark sense of humour). Let's start a new "DYK backlog" thread with curtesy links between the two (probably best not to make a wikitext hash faffing about trying to move the current sub-thread text and links). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 18:23, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] I've hived the discussion off into a new thread (as you've no doubt seen by now). Let's hope I've not made an unholy mess of anything or inadvertently offended anyone's sensibilities or clumsily knocked over some sacrosanct holy cow in the sanctum sanctorum omnium scientium. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:45, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] I have moved the new thread to the bottom of the talk page as I think it will be more visible there. TSventon (talk) 13:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] Hi, responses to some of your (Cl3phact0's) earlier comments. You say that what admin and prep builders do is a bit like re-writing one's assistant's correspondence because they didn't do it the way you would. An assistant in an office is selected to do a job and can be fired if they do it badly. Wikipedia editors select themselves and vary in competence (which is inefficient, but still cheaper than paying experts to write articles). Also the QPQ system means that a large number of editors do reviews and some will be better than others. There is a lot of going round in circles, but the ASEAN example is from a new template editor checking one of his first queues, so it is reasonable for them to ask questions. TSventon (talk) 14:40, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] Perhaps the example I used wasn't the most adept. What I'm getting at is that if we tighten-up the QPQ process (e.g., example templates from AfC and NPP) and make it more likely that when the approved/promoted DYKs get to the folks doing the prep and queue work (DYK admins), they'll be less likelihood that anything needs to be re-done. The way it is now, it's almost as if the whole QPQ thing is just a pre-review that gets the nomination further downstream for a re-review. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:04, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] I think "just a pre-review" is an exaggeration, looking at bottom of the talk page Queue 1 has one query, Queue 2 has two and Prep 3 has three (hopefully that isn't a trend). TSventon (talk) 13:01, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] I've not seen any queues that are put together with straight-up, unrevised, unchallenged, un re-reviewed QPQ reviews. There seems to be a lot of to-ing and fro-ing as a matter of routine (with QPQ approved, promoted noms getting sent back to the start like a game of Snakes and ladders). It this could be reduced, the time-savings would be notable. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:58, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I thought I would start a new section. Thank you for your offer to help at DYK, I think that the stages are generally, start by making nominations (tick), get experience of doing reviews (started), build some preps and then ask for the template editor permission to move preps to queues.

I don't know how much reviewing experience you have, but I saw that you started a review of Template:Did you know nominations/Wisaksono Wirjodihardjo in September. My feedback there would be that when you do an initial review you want to choose one of the ticks at Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewer instructions, if the nomination is too complicated you can leave a comment (marked Comment not review) or just leave the nomination for someone else. If you are not sure how to deal with the nomination you can ask at DYK talk, you are unlikely to get a timely response to questions like "not entirely sure if something in particular needs to be done in a case like this one. Please advise" on the nomination page. Also reading the Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines may help, there is a paragraph about asking the nominator for quotes and translations from offline or non-English sources, which I think was what was needed. I don't think that your work was wasted as it appears that Launchballer used your detailed review, but you seem to have done a lot of work that you could have asked the nominator to do. TSventon (talk) 14:29, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another example where the best path to follow isn't clear. I have (thus far) refrained from doing "too much work" that the nom should theoretically be doing (i.e., editing the article directly). Frankly, it would be far simpler to just scotch the copyvio image and move the nom forward regardless (although, I'm loath to endure yet more DYK drama). This is also another case in point where a flowchart like what we use for NPP/AFC would be rather handy. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:50, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, why did you this change? I would this set to normal rank. Or did I miss something? --sk (talk) 11:36, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There area number of attempts being made to secure a better portrait of the subject (please see Talk page of Susan Kare article, and this on Commons, inter alia). The change on Wikidata was part of that broader effort. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:23, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can you help me understand what on earth is going on? It's like I climbed the Faraway Tree and accidentally fell into Kafka's Circus Land. — Jonathanischoice (talk) 20:26, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Kafka's Circus Land" – may I quote you? Oh, never mind, I just did. I've been trying to get my head around it too. Bonkers. I was going to just walk away after this, but thought I'd have a poke around to see if maybe something could be done help improve the process (not having much luck with that, I'm afraid – and getting a fair bit of resistance to boot). Haven't given up, but getting mighty close. (The probability of my ever getting another DYK through is near zero at this point, no doubt.) It's really a shame, as DYK should be a fun thing to do. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 20:51, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] PS: This is fascinating too. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 20:58, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] If there's this much bullshit involved, then it should happen on a separate talk page like the GA process - i.e. Talk:Soprillo/DYK1 so it's all in one place. Honestly imagine what it's like to have short-term memory loss and trying to get a disability benefit by talking to seven different people on the phone none of whom read each other's notes. — Jonathanischoice (talk) 21:00, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] One would think that the purpose of the DYK review was exactly what you describe. Once the review is done, the nomination approved and closed (i.e., promoted, or whatever the correct terminology is in this case), that would be the last word (with the exception of cases where a significant error is spotted further downstream). It's reductio ad absurdum as is. Kafka's Circus Land – to quote something I read somewhere. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 21:41, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply] After much ado, a glimmer of hope that we may yet see Soprillo play on the main stage. Guessing that the silence procedure is now the best exit from Kafka's Circus Land. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:20, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, I noticed your interaction with another editor at AN. I know that sort of thing can be disheartening, especially when you're new. I wanted to say that I think your comment was reasonable disagreement. Sometimes it helps just to know perception isn't as one-sided as it can sometimes seen. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:37, 23 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Clovermoss: Thanks for venturing all the way over here say that. Much appreciated! As a non-admin, I wasn't entirely certain it was within my purview (or even permitted) to chime-in at AN. I've spent an inordinate amount of time of late trying to get my head around how DYK works (and, at times, categorically doesn't work – in my view, of course), so I thought I might have a thing or two to add. As cliquish and cabalistic as the inner sanctum over there (at DYK, not AN) can seem (and it really does feel that way to an outsider at times), the idea of scrapping the whole project seems like a "cure is worse than the disease" solution if ever there was one. Anyhow, thanks again for the encouragement. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 18:49, 24 January 2026 (UTC)[reply] I agree with you and I don't think one has to have been around forever to deserve an opinion worthy of respect. I'm glad to hear you found my attempt to be sympathetic worthwhile. I agree with your opinion, but I also think there should be more room on Wikipedia for constructive disagreement. To be quite frank, I like it when people voice their opinions that go against the status quo, as long as they aren't attacking people who disagree with them. I was worried you might've been offended by my choice to use the word "new". I ended up using it based off my impression of your comment at AN, but you've been around for three years. That's quite a long time in a normal volunteer sense, even if it doesn't always seem that way to Wikipedians. I'm always learning new things about the project, but I'd say I picked up most of my "foundational" knowledge about how things worked within the first year or so. Anyways, if you ever need a friendly face, I'm around quite often. Not to brag, but I've been told I'm one of the nicest admins. 😅 Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:53, 25 January 2026 (UTC)[reply] Being "one of the nicest" of most anything earns some bragging rights in my book. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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