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thanks for catching tag-modifier (tm)
[edit]Thanks for catching & reverting the tag-modifier (tm) change tag-modifier diff . i'll review some of the other changes to catch mistakes. Tonymetz 💬 16:59, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
About the iWork and Creator Studio icons
[edit]Hey, I know you have a bit of questions over the icons for the iWork apps post Creator Studio release based on your revisions, so I decided to verify myself. It seems like only the Mac versions has the old and new versions distinguished with icons. For example, here is the old version of Pages, and the new version of Pages. The ones on iOS still got the new icons regardless, as seen here. Regardless, there are also word online that Apple has started to notify users that the old version will not get any more updates, so i'm unsure if we are supposed to even include the old icon. Let me know what you think. EvanTech10 (talk) 04:17, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
@EvanTech10: The "Purchase apps individually" section of About Apple Creator Studio says, of the pro apps, "To make it easier to distinguish versions, the apps in Apple Creator Studio have unique icons.", but the pro apps may be different from the iWork apps. (The whole "iWork apps are now part of Apple Creator Studio" thing is a bit weird - 1) what do the iWork apps have to do with the sort of artistic creation that the pro apps are for? 2) is the idea that Apple wants all their non-bundled apps to turn into subscription apps, and turning the iWork apps into freemium apps and turning the pro apps into "buy the basic version, subscribe to the premium version" is the answer?) So I installed the latest shiniest Numbers (the iWork app that, unless I'm completely unfamiliar with what people in the music and movies/TV shows and photography worlds do, the least Creative Studio of all the iWork apps; that's for business nerds, not "creatives"). It's Numbers 15.1, and has the new icons. I.e., for the iWork apps, there's only one current version for macOS, and that's the Creative Studio version; you can, however, have both those and the previous versions installed. and the old versions have, not surprisingly, the old icons. I'm not about to spend the Big Bucks buying the "just buy it" version of any of the Creative Studio pro apps, so I don't know whether they're the latest version of those apps or just the previous version, same as with the iWork apps. So it sure sounds, at least for the iWork apps, as if the latest versions all have the latest icons, and the older versions aren't going to get any updates, so maybe we just show the new icons and refer to them as the 15.1 icons - no need to mention the Creative Suite, they're probably the same regardless of whether you just get them as individual iWork apps from the App Store (and don't get all the freemium add-ons unless you subscribe to the Creative Suite) or sign up for the Creative Suite and get 'em all. Guy Harris (talk) 08:58, 31 January 2026 (UTC) Creator Studio, not Creative Studio. Maybe they're just avoiding a trademark battle with Adobe over the word "Creative", but the fact that I keep thinking it's "Creative" may be a sign that the name wasn't the most obvious name for it. Guy Harris (talk) 09:04, 31 January 2026 (UTC) User: Guy Harris Agreed. In the case for the iWork apps, it is best just to show the latest icon because that is what’s going to get actively updated. We also don’t need to caption them again in this case. It seems like Apple is trying to turn the iWork situation as a freemium app with paid AI features if you subscribe to the Creator Studio. The Pro Apps, however, (as I bought the education bundle before they removed it) seems like they will still receive updates. All of my Pro Apps got the latest version (such as FCP 12). In that case, Apple still decided to distinguish between the paid version and the Creator Studio version. So much so, that they have to update the icons for the paid version to fit inside the Liquid Glass constraints, like the MainStage icon (which got the biggest redesign; seriously Apple has the capability to design amazing logos, yet they fail with the Creator Studio ones). So in those cases, it is still alright to distinguish between the one time purchase and subscription option for the Pro Apps. PS: Freeform hasn’t been updated yet so it is still best to keep the previous non Creator Studio icon. EvanTech10 (talk) 14:08, 31 January 2026 (UTC)Hi, many people are trying to change the latest version to 10.15.8 despite “Security Update 2026-001.” Can you help me confirm it because no sources are mentioning it? EvanTech10 (talk) 23:07, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
@EvanTech10: Fires up Catalina virtual machine that's running 10.15.7 Opens Apple Menu > System Preference Selects Software Update Sees an update to Tahoe plus "Another update is available" Selects "More info..." Sees "macOS Catalina Security Update 2026-001 10.15.8" being offered So maybe there was a 10.15.8 update and this is a security update to the 10.15.8 update, or maybe the Security Update is to 10.15.8. After updating, thesw_vers command reports
ProductName: Mac OS X ProductVersion: 10.15.8 BuildVersion: 19H2036So, yeah, it is 10.15.8. Part of the problem here is the old versioning scheme vs. the new-in-Big-Sur versioning scheme:
- The old version, for what I presume are marketing reasons ("Mac OS X is th successor to Mac OS 9, even though it's really a Macified version of NeXTStEP, so we're going to leave the major version number fixed at 10, so the real version number is what comes after the 10., and there's no third component to use for small updates, so we'll just call them Supplemental Update YYYY-NNN or Security Update YYYY-NNN"), don't have a field to increase for releases that are neither Big Feature Releases or bug-fix-and-features-that-didn't-fit-in-the-.0-release releases, so they called them Supplementary Updates or Security Update.
- The new version, for what I presume are marketing reasons ("Nobody cares about the classic Mac OS any more, so we don't need to pretend this is just the next release after the last classic Mac OS release, so let's use the same numbering scheme as all our other OSes, where the first component updates with every Big Feature Release, the next component updates with every bug-fix-and-features-that-didn't-fit-in-the-.0-release release, and the final component updates with every fix-a-critical-bug release.