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@Rotary Engine: Kuniaki Koiso, as supported by the text of his article, was part of the Imperial Rule Assistance Association and Sakurakai, both of which were Japanese fascist organizations. Fumimaro Konoe was the founder of the IRAA. Shigetarō Shimada's connection to fascism does seem tenuous taking a cursory read through his article, so his removal is warranted. Heisuke Yanagawa was a member of Kōdōha and a follower of Sadao Araki, as supported by the body of the article and this book. Arctic Circle System (talk) 00:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources, sources, sources?! Do the preponderance of reliable sources describe these persons as "fascist"? If so, those sources should be used to reference content at the biographical articles, which would then support categorising those persons as "fascist"; which would, in turn, support inclusion in this Navbox. Absent reliable sources describing these persons as such, and the intermediate step of referenced supporting content in the biographies, they should not be included. The reasoning above is not only unsourced (as regards "fascist"), but also impacts poorly with WP:SYNTH. The IRAA is not broadly regarded as fascist; it is commonly considered to have been a "damp squib". But it doesn't matter if someone was a member if reliable sources do not broadly refer to them (the member) in a way that directly supports inclusion here. And it doesn't matter who someone was a follower of if reliable sources do not broadly refer to them (the follower) as "fascist". Rotary Engine talk 01:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply] @Rotary Engine: How would someone who follows the ideology of a fascist not be a fascist? And what does "damp squib" mean? Arctic Circle System (talk) 08:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply] WP:SYNTH@WP:NOR prevents us from basing content on combined sources: Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any source. ... If one reliable source says A and another reliable source says B, do not join A and B together to imply a conclusion C not mentioned by either of the sources. This would be improper editorial synthesis of published material to imply a new conclusion, which is original research. "A and B, therefore, C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument concerning the topic of the article. If a single source says "A" in one context, and "B" in another, without connecting them, and does not provide an argument of "therefore C", then "therefore C" cannot be used in any article. We cannot take "Yanagawa was a follower of Araki" (ref A) and "Araki was a fascist" (ref B) and combine them to produce "Yanagawa was a fascist". We need a source which directly supports "Yanagawa was a fascist" A squib is a small firework. A wikt:damp squib is a firework which fails to fire (because it is wet); idiomatically it means Anything that doesn’t work properly, or fails to come up to expectations; a dud. The IRAA was failed to do what it was intended to do. See: [1] Still, the Taisei Yokusankai (Imperial Rule Assistance Association) that was formed that October never developed into more than a top level promotion organization, leaving the dream of a "single powerful political party" unfulfilled., [2] Thus, the Taisei Yokusankai was reorganized into an administrative assistance organization led by the Home Ministry, dashing the hopes of the KONOE Shintaisei (New Political Order) Movement to create a "single powerful political party." Rotary Engine talk 04:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply] @Rotary Engine: I see... What about Fumimaro Konoe though? Arctic Circle System (talk) 16:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This infobox is firstly, huge, and also the broadest of our various navboxes on the topic and is problematic in its sheer broadness. It basically entirely duplicates tm:neo-Nazism for example... I think it would be beneficial to do a sort of deduplication where if someone is in a more specific one they do not appear here. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:27, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Under the "Movements" section, the Female Peronist Party is included as a South American fascist movement. This seems like an odd choice, given that the article makes no mention of it being a fascist or neo-fascist movement, and it's specifically mentioned as being on the left of the Peronist movement at the time. I think it should be removed from the infobox altogether. Halfling Daniel (talk) 19:49, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]