Talk:Lynching of Dipu Chandra Das

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@TryKid before reverting, I would like to resolve the dispute, as I mentioned in my edit summary. Ahammed Saad (talk) 16:17, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahammed Saad: you started the discussion after the revert. The sources being Indian or Bangladeshi is irrelevant, as there is no policy to privilege local sources in disputes like this. Additionally, non-Indian sources do make this connection too. Das's death was covered in the middle of BBC Bangla's live coverage of Hadi related rioting. Similarly for Al Jazeera, which notes the lynching in their Hadi coverage. And as far as I understand, or if I am remembering correctly, the torching of the media sources also precedes the lynching, so I'm not sure how you're saying it happened after the lynching. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 16:26, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Understood. But the fact is that Hadi's death was reported on 9.40 pm, but the lynching occurred around 9.00 pm. If Hadi's death was responsible for the lynching, then it would have occurred after 9.40 pm. These two reports [1], [2] have reported the incident separately. The BBC and the Al Jazeera may had collectively reported all the incidents in a single news report, as the political violence & lynchimg occurred at the same day. I had not checked these two reports, but I had checked reports from Hindustan Times, Aaj Tak and Anandabazar Patrika which shows all of these incidents altogether from a communal pov, despite the fact that December 2025 Bangladesh violence was a political violence. Ahammed Saad (talk) 16:41, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Aaj Tak, Anandabazar wasn't cited in the article. Jībanmṛtamessage 16:52, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] So what!! Aren't their reports circulating in online!? Aaj Tak report was present in 2025 in Bangladesh, later removed by somebody. Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:32, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] I see. Nonetheless, this is how the sources cover it. We can change it to "during violence related to the attack on Hadi", or something similar. This attack later proved to be fatal, but the violence had started even before that. If I'm understanding the timeline currently, the attacks on Indian embassy and other rioting also predate the formal announcement of his death, but are still connected to the protests around him. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 16:58, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] @TryKid Has been any consensus for the inclusion of the topic as you have displayed the disputed parts in the article?? I've opposed it below. Ahammed Saad (talk) 18:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] And what about the contraction of the violence against minority part on which I and @Win Kyaw had agreed upon?? You had undone the Hadi part but not this, this is hypocrisy. Ahammed Saad (talk) 18:32, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Sure, but Jībanmṛta did not agree with the contraction either. That would be two to two, but it's not a numbers thing either. We've to look at the arguments given, and I don't see them strongly opining on the contraction with a persuasive argument. You've also not explained the timeline: was the torching of the media houses, the attack on the embassy and other assorted rioting before or after the formal announcement of Hadi's death? And what value does Bangladesh media not reporting a connection have when we literally see them getting burned down for god-knows-what minor infraction they've done to the "student revolutionaries"? TryKid [dubious – discuss] 18:47, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] @Ahammed Saad: you need to revert yourself. You've been reverted by two different editors and are in violation of WP:3RR. You must first gain consensus to reinstate your edit, not the other way around. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 18:51, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] The timeline or perpetrators aren't even the matter. The matter is whether the motive behind this was same or not. The fact is that the lynching was done with a motive of blasphemy, which is not uncommon in Bangladesh at least since 5 August 2024, and Osman Hadi's death resulted in political violence against some selective sites with more or less Islamist motive. If the political violence did not occur, it would have certainly been the lynching only that received international coverage. So my point is Hadi's death violence is NOT related to it. Ahammed Saad (talk) 08:43, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] The lead fails WP:UNDUE, I support adding some info about Indian reaction, aftermath to the lead, and at the end, how Hadi's death violence occurred by the same time and avoiding connection between the two, which is disputed. Ahammed Saad (talk) 08:46, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] As per the sources given, the lynching happened regardless of Osman Hadi’s death.. Hence, we can write "The incident coincided with the death of a prominent politician, Osman Hadi, which followed a widespread riot across the country." WinKyaw (talk) 17:07, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Then what's aim of starting the discussion?? If both violences were unrelated, then citing both altogether will be WP:NPOV, because Indian sensationalist media and right-wing is constantly presenting it like this. Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:28, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] You have also removed the section nothing the attacks on Hindus and other minorities since the ascension of the Yunus regime, which is not covered by your justification here. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 16:29, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Such a long description is irrelevant here for a single incident. You may add that in Interim government of Muhammad Yunus article, and may keep a short summary of that here, similar to Hazari Lane violence Ahammed Saad (talk) 16:44, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Why on earth will we follow some other article that is merely Start-class, bad written! Even if the content was irrelevant, you should have simply pared down the necessary bits instead of wiping out huge swathes of text. To make matters worse, you rambled on in the edit summary spouting absolute drivel about Indian media-Bangladeshi media which is totally irrelevant here and arguing over who struck first. Was it Osman Hadi, or did the Islamists' mob kill and burn the Hindu man prior to that? Jībanmṛtamessage 16:57, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] A single paragraph is hardly "long", when it is the background of the attack and sources mention it as such. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 16:58, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Remove Violence against minorities as a separate section. Rephrase it to 2-3 lines instead. Its kinda npov to highlight one regime's violence as if this event occurred due to it. WinKyaw (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] It is already just two lines, one of which just mentions the number of Hindus in the country. I'm not sure the number of sentences on the issue should go below one when all the relevant sources cite it as a factor. A seperate section is also appropriate as one of the parts of a tripartite background section: the general background on Hindus in Bangladesh and violence against them, the immediate background of ongoing violence, and a specific section on the person who was lynched. TryKid [dubious – discuss] 17:25, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Yes, it will be better to merge the section with the victim and rephrase it into a single line mentioning violences since 2024 under Yunus government. Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:30, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] @Jībanmṛta for God's sake, can I know why have you reverted my changes in 2022 and 2025 violences despite providing descriptive reason?? Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:35, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] What is '2022, 2025 violence"? Are you talking about another article here? Jībanmṛtamessage 17:38, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] 2022 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence and 2025 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence Ahammed Saad (talk) 17:39, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] I did not edit the 2022 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence article. To discuss the 2025 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence, start a discussion at the respective article's talk page. Jībanmṛtamessage 17:43, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] @Gotitbro you stated that it's not an isolated event, then why all infos were removed from the December 2025 Bangladesh violence article about the lynching?? And that was done by an other editor. Also motives were different Ahammed Saad (talk) 11:36, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] I have no interest in getting into the weeds for what basically amounts to pedantism for a politician i.e . Hadi. We are not interested in what our own other articles say or don't say but we are indeed interested in what reliable sources say. Every single source covering the violence or the lynching mentions the background/milieu in which it happened i.e. the unrest in the country following the shooting of Hadi about a week earlier. It is absurd to leave this out and so far the consensus is absolutely clear for inclusion, with you being the only editor who has batted for complete exclusion with no deference to policy or guidelines. Having now been blocked at this article for edit warring, it is time to bring policy based rationale or desist from editing this out, lest stricter sanctions follow. Gotitbro (talk) 15:18, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Early Indian and Bangladeshi sources suggested that Dipu Chandra Das was already dead when he was set on fire, but newer international sources state that he was burned alive.

• Hasnat, Saif; Travelli, Alex (19 December 2025). "Riots Erupt in Bangladesh After the Killing of a Student Leader". New York Times. Retrieved 25 December 2025. On Friday, while protesters took to the streets in anger over Mr. Hadi's death, the police reported that a mob had lynched a Hindu laborer in Mymensingh. The victim, Dipu Chandra Das, 27, was accused of blasphemy, the police said, and then tied to a tree and burned alive.
• Roy, Rajesh; Nagpal, Piyush; Alam, Julhas (23 December 2025). "Protest erupts in India's capital city over lynching of Hindu man in Bangladesh". Associated Press. Retrieved 24 December 2025. Hadi's death triggered widespread violence in Dhaka. The offices of two national daily newspapers were torched and Indian diplomatic missions were targeted. A Hindu man also was burned alive, which sparked the protest Tuesday in India.

TryKid [dubious – discuss] 04:22, 25 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TryKid: It is not uncommon for initial coverage in chaotic situations to miss the mark, or for local sources to face pressure to sanitize the details. In these situations domestic outlets on the ground are often forced to walk on eggshells. Especially in countries like Bangladesh, they face pressure to sanitize news regarding communal violence to avoid "tarnishing the country's image" or to protect the attacking party. When heavy hitters & gold standard reliable sources like the New York Times and the Associated Press explicitly state that the victim was burned alive, we can't just brush that under the rug. Especially the New York Times directly attribute the "burned alive" detail directly to the police. The policy says we go with the best available sources, not just the first ones. I support updating the lead and the body. Jībanmṛtamessage 07:16, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply] Yes, that update should be done. I'm thinking of nominating the article for a WP:DYK, mulling on what the hook should be. "... led to the deepening of a crisis in India–Bangladesh relations" comes to mind but it's possibly too banal. "... was openly celebrated many, including a prospective parliamentary candidate" cited to NYT might work better, but it would need to be added to the article first. @Jībanmṛta: feel free to make any edits that feel right to you, we'll go over and copyedit as needed. The reactions section looks to be too long currently, needs to be shortened and summarised more aggressively. regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 09:29, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the religiously motivated lynching of Dipu Chandra Das was celebrated by many in Bangladesh, including a prospective parliamentary candidate?

• Reviewed:

TryKid [dubious – discuss] 13:03, 26 December 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: I definitely second this hook, althought the article fo-shizzle needs a second pair of eyes. Edit: @TryKid: Re your edit summary the claim isn't that they were directly linked, but that provides the background for the febrile atmosphere in the country. See talk. this is a personal view and I don't inherently disagree with this but as we know on Wikipedia anyone is well within their rights to remove unsubstantiated/unverified assertions. And re the talk discussion, there's no consensus. Unless & until there's a consensus that the distinct incident of the Hadi assassination serves as a backdrop and 'febrile atmosphere' (no reliable media corroborated this, however), and therefore it is justified to be mentioned on the article, please do not revert it further. Good luck with the nom! X (talk) 19:33, 27 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• As I have before, I object to hooks which describe contemporary killings such as this as 'lynching' in our own voice. It assumes, prior to a criminal investigation or trial, that the killing was either not lawful or was criminal; that may very well be true, but it suggests the pre-adjudication guilt of living mob participants in a way that violates - at least - the spirit of WP:BLPCRIME. Urve (talk) 20:24, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply] If other agree with this sentiment, I wouldn't object to changing the hook to "killing of Dipu Chandra Das", but it would still have to be piped to the current title, since that is the common name. regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 12:17, 13 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

• - Overall ready to go. Long enough. New enough, sourced/refs checks out and are third party. Only time to pick a hook.BabbaQ (talk) 19:26, 19 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

• @TryKid and BabbaQ: I can imagine many hooks being created from this article, but this isn't one of them. Please consider creating new hooks. If you need help, ping me and I can offer a few. Viriditas (talk) 22:35, 15 February 2026 (UTC)[reply] @Viriditas: if this one can't run, I'm fine with whatever you suggest. I thought of a few (condemnation by USA, various protests, international relations, investigation claims) but they all sound kinda banal. If you could suggest something, that would be great. Thanks for the help. regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 12:28, 16 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Xoak: you've added your comments about the Hadi connection at the DYK page, but that's probably not the right venue for that discussion, you can move them here. Regarding the Hadi related environment being the background, I will point to the two sources I've quoted in the section above: #Burned alive or (dead) body set on fire, they directly reference the environment post Hadi in noting the lynching. Thank you for your interest in the article. regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 20:02, 27 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TryKid, Thanks for pointing those sources, especially the nyt doesn't necessarily link the two incidents however it's conceivable that hadi's assassination and later on death indeed might serve as a backdrop or paint a poignant overall picture of the country's current state of affairs, and I now think it should be mentioned in the article with the sourcing, but not in the lede. You may go ahead and add it my as my contention is now withdrawn in light of the source. Re the DYK venue, it's alright as in DYK we do discuss the state and nature/issues of the articles nominated. Regards. X (talk) 20:30, 27 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]